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**Wietefras** · 3 July 2013, 16:21

Re: kan momenteel niet kiezen welke belichting best te gebruiken

Een 250W Plug and Grow CFL lamp bedoel je? Die geeft iets van 19500 lumen tegen 33000 lm voor een 250W HPS.

**Cookaap** · 3 July 2013, 16:27

Re: kan momenteel niet kiezen welke belichting best te gebruiken

heb je een link?

een ballast = een voorschakel(apparaat)

**smoke187** · 3 July 2013, 16:37

Re: kan momenteel niet kiezen welke belichting best te gebruiken

Plasmalight 6u 250 Watt voor de groei 50eu per stuk
Dan dezelfde waarden voor bloei... maar in het oranje/rode spectrum vermoed ik
en ja de ballast is ingebouwd plug and grow ...
Neen geen cfl denk ik althans want die verkopen ze maar tot 23 watt ?

**MWay** · 3 July 2013, 17:00

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250 W hps met extra groeilamp en het mooiste is met een dimbare evsa.

**smoke187** · 3 July 2013, 17:43

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Die groeilamp van 250 watt.6u.kan je niet vergelijken met een 250W hps volgens de verkoper...en heb toch met mijn eigen ogen gezien dat deze minstens even fel schijnt als een 600watt hps en de kleurcode zit meer in het blauwe spectrum dan in de MH en dus zeker ook dan HPS lampen (ik heb net 1 groei lamp en 1 bloei lamp elk 250 watt 6u gekocht i.p.v.hps/mh combo )dus kan niet zeggen welke beter is maar heb niet kunnen wachten tot na de zomer en heb me tegelijkertijd een DR100 tent met 400 watt HPS/MH en volledige verluchtingskit erbij genomen

... nu ben ik bezig met zaad maar naar de toekomst als alles goed gaat wil ik met zaad en stekken werken ...ja ik heb een nieuwe hobby gevonden naast enkel blowen ...

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ok effe kalmeren van al die opwinding en eentje geblowd ... eerst eens jouw link lezen cookaap . BTW tentje met 400 hps is op komst joepie !!!

**Cookaap** · 3 July 2013, 18:36

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Haha mooi, heb je een complete gekocht?

**HJM** · 3 July 2013, 19:00

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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2012-New-200W-ELPL-Plant-Grow-Light-CE-Green-Energy-Saving-Induction-Lamp-closest-to-PAR/615311148.html

**MWay** · 3 July 2013, 19:04

Re: kan momenteel niet kiezen welke belichting best te gebruiken

Dat is mooi wist niet dat je ook een 400 watt hps ging kopen.Succes

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STAAT ER BOVEN STONIE.

**smoke187** · 3 July 2013, 23:20

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Thanx.Ja dat zag ik dus ook dat het dichtst bij de natuurlijke PAR zat beter dan hps die veel licht uitzend waar de plantjes niks aan hebben. Binnenkort heb ik beide zowel Hps/Mh als plasmalights maar niet zoals deze hoor welke trouwens ook wel heel interessant lijkt . Maar heb nu toch HPS/MH gekozen kan in de toekomst nog veranderen net zoals deze technologie elk jaar doet alvast wat verder onderzoeken heb nog heel wat bij te leren !

**QnQ** · 3 July 2013, 23:41

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Over welke plasma lichten heb je het nou ? Linkje ?

**smoke187** · 3 July 2013, 23:45

Re: kan momenteel niet kiezen welke belichting best te gebruiken

Ja NU zie ik terug zeer interessante grow lampen thnx 2 HJM

rrrrr, maar heb nu al besteld dus zullen de eerste kweekjes op de "ouderwetse manier" gebeuren en omdat ik op dit moment niet teveel moet kijken naar elektriciteit prijzen zullen de eerste dames onder hps dansen want heb toch al uitstekende oogsten gezien op deze manier. Ik kan later nog steeds zo een new-gen aanschaffen

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Hier zag ik net nog betere QnQ

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2012-...615311148.html

**HJM** · 3 July 2013, 23:48

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Item Type:Grow LightsPlace of Origin:China (Mainland)Brand Name:EconoLux ELPLFeatures:Close match to PAR curve, high output efficiency, energy savingWarranty:5 yearsWattage:200Certification:CCC,CE,FCC,RoHSIs Dimmable:NoVoltage:85-265VPower Source:ACModel Number:ELPL-(GP, VG, FL)200R-CE
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Why buy from us:
The EconoLux Industries ELPL series of Magnetic Induction grow/plant-lights are the result of over 2 years of painstaking research and development. Since Lumens are useless for measuring grow/plant-light output (see More Detailed Information below), as high lumen numbers are determined by green light output (plants need blue and red light, very little green), we are the only Induction plant-light company that provides lamp output in PAR. The ELPL lamps are designed to provide you with the most technologically advanced, longest lifespan, energy saving lighting for all of your plant cultivation needs. They are available in a range of wattages, from 150W to 300W models, and in three different types, optimized for various plant type growth applications.
The EconoLux ELPL-200R-CE, 200 Watt, energy saving, long lifespan, rectangular induction plant-light, offers the best output spectrum match to the PAR curve of any plant/grow light on the market. They are designed specifically for a variety of agricultural applications. Our advanced proprietary lamp coating, made from a blend of domestic and imported high-output phosphors, produces an average full spectrum (light useful for plant growth) output of 95.7%, concentrated in the blue and red portions of the spectrum, maximizing crop yields.
Energy saving 200W rectangular (square) magnetic induction plant-light lamp;

Universal-voltage electronic ballast - works on 110Vac to 277Vac 50 or 60 Hz;

Spectral output curve closely matches plant’s light absorption (PAR) curve;

Proprietary lamp coating outputs 94.4% ~ 96.3% of light useful to plant growth - little wasted light;

Low “heat signature” - Integrated thermal management bridge/mounting bar with slots included;

Three different types for general purpose, vegetative plant, and budding/flowering/fruiting plant cultivation;

Very long lifespan of 80,000 ~ 85,000 hours (no filaments or electrodes to wear out);

High lumen maintenance (75% depreciation at +/- 70,000 hours);

Stable operation and flicker free with instant on and hot re-strike;

Environmentally friendly green technology;

5 year limited warranty on lamp, 2 year limited warranty on ballast;

Foreign experts, professional technical support.

Energy and Lamp Cost Savings:
The ELPL series of plant-lights can replace Metal Halide and High Pressure Sodium lamps of more that twice the wattage saving money on electricity (energy) costs. Typically a 250W ELPL series lamp can replace a 400W Metal Halide or High pressure Sodiumlamp saving over 45% in energy costs, or the 250W ELPL lamp can replace a 350W LED light saving around 27% in energy costs(and for a much lower purchase price than the LED).
The long ELPL lifespan of 80,000~85,000 hours also saves you money on buying replacement lamps, as the ELPL series can outlast about 10 Metal Halide lamps (lifespan 8,000 hours), about 5 High pressure sodium lamps (lifespan 15,000 hours) and one LED plant-light (lifespan about 50,000 hours).
More Light for Less Money:
As any lamp ages, the amount of light it produces declines over time. This decline in light output is known as “lumen depreciation”. Lumen depreciation can be plotted as a “lumen maintenance curve” which shows how well the lamp maintains it’s light output throughout it’s lifespan - not just how long it continues to produce some light output. The chart below shows the lumen maintenance curves for Metal Halide, High Pressure Sodium, LED and ELPL induction plant-lights. As you can see from the chart, the ELPL lamps hold their light levels for longer (have better lumen maintenance) than other types of plant-lights.
In addition, the ELPL series is more efficient producing an average of 97.5% light output that is useful to the plants while operating at low temperatures (low "heat signature"). Vet little energy is wasted producing light that the plants can use, or heat that has to be removed with cooling/ventilation equipment.

Superior Results :
We arranged with a (licensed) greenhouse to test a 250W ELPL lamp in their germination area where it replaced a 600W Metal Halidelamp, saving over 57% in energy costs! The photo below shows some samples plants after 2 weeks of growth. The top images(with the pink square around them) are the plants grown under the ELPL lamp, after 2 weeks of growth. The bottom images are the same types of plants grown under the Metal Halide lamp after 2 weeks of growth. As you can see, the plants grown under the ELPL lamp are larger, healthier and growing better, while saving the greenhouse on energy and re-lamping costs.

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The ELPL grow/plant lights come with custom designed inductor heat-sinks that have 90% more mass and surface area than industry averages, in order to insure stable lamp operation. In addition, the lamps come pre-mounted to a thermal bridge (lamp heat-sink) that has convenient mounting holes and slots for easy installation of the lamp. The ELPL series lamps uses universal voltage input electronic ballasts which can operate from 110~277VAC, 50/60 Hz.Three Different Types:

The ELPL series of 200W rectangular, energy efficient, grow/plant lights is offered in three different types, with different spectrums, to suit the kind of plants you are growing:
For Growing budding/flowering/fruiting plants: Use the ELPL-FL type lamps with a balance of 42.4% Blue to 40.4% Red light, and an output of 96.4% light useful to plants (excess/unused green light has been deducted) - see graph below for spectrum curve. The FL series provides the extra red light that plants need during the budding/flowering/fruiting phase of growth.

For Growing all kinds of plants: Use the General Purpose ELPL-GP type lamps with a balance of 49.4% Blue to 50.4% Red light, and an output of 94.5% light useful to plants (excess/unused green light has been deducted) - see graph for spectrum curve. The GP lamps provide a close match to the PAR curve with a slight emphasis on blue light.

For growing vegetative (non flowering) plants or for Germination/Cloning: Use the ELPL-VG type lamps with a balance of 58.8% Blue to 32.1% Red light, and an output of 96.5% light useful to plants (excess/unused green light has been deducted) - see graph for spectrum curve. The VG lamps provide the extra blue output that non-flowering, germinating, or cloning plants need in the early stages of growth to form strong roots and shoots.

The graph shows a comparison of the spectrum output from the 3 types: ELPL-GP models (pink line), the ELPL-VG models (green line),and the ELPL-FL models (orange line), compared to the PAR Curve (navy blue dashed line) - each ELPL type is customized for growing different kinds of plants. Note that the majority of the light output is in the blue and red regions as the plants make little use of green light, and the light output closely tracks the PAR curve.
A copy of the spectral output charts, from each of the three types of ELPL plant-lights, and detailed test reports, are available on request.

Ordering:

When ordering the 200W, rectangular, energy saving ELPL grow/plant light, please use the following model numbers according to the type of plant you are growing:
ELPL-GP200R-CE: General purpose plant-light for growing all kinds of plants;

ELPL-VG200R-CE: For growing vegetative plants, germination and cloning (extra blue);

ELPL-FL200R-CE: For growing budding/flowering/fruiting plants (extra red)

NOTE: Under the "Emitting Color" boxes above, please select:
"Yellow" for our FL (flowering plants) lamp,
"Red" for our GP (general purpose) lamp,
"Blue" for our VG (vegetative plants and germination) lamp.
Please contact us to confirm the stock status and shipping cost BEFORE YOU PAY.

General Info:
The ELPL series of grow/plant lights is offered as lamps and ballasts for installation (retrofitting) into your own reflectors. The circular lamps are ideal for use in "umbrella"/parabolic or high-bay type reflector retrofit applications. The lamps are provided with an integrated heat-sink, with slots in the ends, for simple and easy installation into your reflectors. It is important to use a reflector to collect the light and direct it onto the plants.
Because the ELPL series has a low "heat signature" (operating at temperatures around 52C (144.8F), compared to temperatures of 900~1,100C (1,652~2,012F) for Metal Halide and High Pressure Sodium lamps, the ELPL lamps can be mounted/placed closer to the plants to deliver more light energy without damaging or drying out the plants. We recommend that the ELPL lamps be located at a distance of between 16cm and 30.4 cm (6.3" and 12") from the bottom of the lamp to the tops of the plants.
The ELPL series of rectangular grow/plant lights is also offered with integrated 'cone' type reflectors, that are designed specifically to work with induction lamps. Please see our ELPL-CR series lamps for more information.

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**smoke187** · 4 July 2013, 00:08

Re: kan momenteel niet kiezen welke belichting best te gebruiken

Je vroeg om een link ... neemt bijna volledig topic in beslag

Deze lamp reeks had ik nog niet gezien ma lijkt zeer goed idd ! Wel redelijk duur in aankoop en verzendkosten, is er iemand die met deze al eens een kweek gedaan heeft ? Jij HJM ?

**HJM** · 4 July 2013, 00:22

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Ze worden ook in Nederland verkocht. (en bij Aliexpress altijd kiezen voor gratis verzenden)

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